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Conservative Rip Van Winkles

May 1, 2011

Constrain the federal government to its legitimate constitutional functions. Let it empower people, while limiting its reach into their lives. Spend only what is necessary, and tax only to raise revenue for essential government functions. (2008 Republican National Platform)

Above is a promise of the Republican Party to the people of America. It is one of the central tenets that conservatives hang their hats on when supporting a political party. Conservatives believe that this goal of shrinking government to its essential Constitutional functions will be achieved through empowerment of a Republican Party controlled government. Why do conservatives continue in this delusion? What evidence do they have that Republicans will do as they have promised? What continues to give hope to conservatives that they can wean the majority of Americans off their entitlements to get them to join in remaking America? What compels them to believe that the system can be torn down to their ideal levels using the very system itself to accomplish this change?

Do they think that the Tea Party, which in reality isn’t a separate political party – just a slice of Republicanism, much as the Christian Coalition was in its heyday, will wake America up out of their stupor? Come on now, let’s be realistic. The Tea Party will accomplish, if anything, nothing more than pushing the Republican Party farther to the right (as the Christian Coalition did) or split the Party, destroying any long term effectiveness that Republicans might gain. While the Tea Party has a lot of conservative support, they will not maintain the independent and moderate middle. The Tea Party is a lot of flash, but not a lot of substance.

There is no chance of true reform, or of Republicans ever reaching their promised goal of reduced government. While originally the government derived its legitimacy from the people, that is no longer the truth – and hasn’t been since the end of the Civil War in 1865. Yet conservatives don’t want to open their eyes and admit the hard and ugly truth. Government now legitimizes itself and commands the people. It’s not like Republicans haven’t had the chance to implement their vision, they’re just not able to – either by choice or incompetence. Two separate Congresses, the 108th and 109th, were Republican majorities in both the House and Senate. Both had a Republican president sitting in the White House.

So, tell me conservatives how much “reform” occurred? Where in that time did government become more aligned with the values and principles of the United States Constitution? It didn’t and only a deluded voter would have believed it would. Instead we got involved in two wars. While there might be a case for starting a war in Afghanistan, there’s NO justification for the war in Iraq. It was that war in Iraq that has caused the war in Afghanistan to drag on as long as it has. Had the nation not shifted its focus to Iraq and dealt first with Afghanistan we might well have it all over with. Instead our service men and women are still fighting and dying in a war that the United States, just like the old Soviet Union, WILL NOT WIN. But the damn fools in government and throughout the voting public will still insist they can beat the odds and pull off a victory. Sure, when pigs fly maybe. As it stands at this point I don’t have any problem with George W. Bush and Barack H. Obama both being indicted and tried for crimes against humanity by the World Court. They’re so into the global society/world that they should suffer the consequences of the world’s opinions of their actions.

But, to pull our thinking back home to the good old US of A and the many, many, many thousands of voters who refuse to accept reality. These voters – of which you may well be one (not that you’d think so or accept that you are) – will keep electing the same types of representatives to the Congress and to the White House. You will NEVER admit that very few – if any – of the candidate will change anything more than the faces sitting in the different offices in Washington D.C. You will NEVER admit that you do not have the will and courage to tell all 435 members of Congress and the President of the United States that the system of government is so severely broken and must be fixed by making the very hard cuts and sacrifices. Instead you will continue to believe that your precious Republicans, those stalwarts of freedom and liberty (you remember those don’t you?) will save the republic. Instead, in fact they are just as guilty of the theft of your freedom and liberty, just as guilty for driving this nation into a financial crisis, just as guilty for the for the mess this nation has fallen into.

Really though, when you come right down to the brass tacks, you average conservative Republicans can see the truth in what the Democratic liberal progressives are trying to do and you’ll raise hell about it. Yet you won’t admit that in truth you are no more than one of them in “conservative” clothing. How much longer are you going to continue sitting on your arse whining about the lefties and how they’re ruining the country and not admit you’re supporting the same behaviors in the right?

Of course for you to pay any attention to what I’ve said you have to first admit the truth to yourself – and there is where the problem lies! Wake up people and do it NOW!

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22 Comments leave one →
  1. Judy Sabatini permalink
    May 1, 2011 11:08 am

    Personally, I think it’s time to bring ALL our troops home. Let these damn countries fight among themselves. Been going on for 1000’s of years anyway, & will continue to do so. We don’t need to lose anymore Americans over there.

    As for both sides of the parties, I don’t believe anything they say anymore, they only say what the people want to hear anyway & do what they’re going to do anyway. So, why bother making promises that won’t be kept. Hell, look at what’s happening now, food prices are skyrocketing, gas prices are doing the same, unemployment is still high, & so on. It’s never going to change as far as I’m concerned. This country was once a proud nation, not anymore, we’re the laughing stock now. This government has done so much damage it’s going to take a very long time to get it even remotely close to the way it was

    • May 1, 2011 12:28 pm

      I agree, bring them home and get out of these insane wars. I’ll go further, bring home all our troops stationed in Europe. I find it ridiculous to believe that 65 years after the end of WW2 we still need to be in Europe. Can’t they protect themselves by now? If not we can put another lie to the idea of socialism lite – they need upwards of 90k in foreign troops to prop them up.

      As to the parties, they need to be neutered and Americans need to use their own brains to think through the issues and vote independent of any party platforms. I too have zero trust in them or what they spew.

      • Judy Sabatini permalink
        May 1, 2011 1:49 pm

        Plainly, I couldn’t agree with you more on everything you said.

  2. V.H. permalink
    May 1, 2011 11:18 am

    Wake up and do what? The people began the Tea Party because they are trying to do something because we are well aware that the republican party wasn’t standing up for our values. You say it won’t work-it is just a part of the Republican Party. The point is to try and weed out the bad and put in those who actually want a smaller government because creating a whole new party will simply let the Dems win the elections. And I simply don’t agree that the republican party is JUST as bad, bad I will give you. 🙂 Show me a better way-so far no one has.

    • May 1, 2011 12:18 pm

      While I am pointing directly to the conservatives in this article, I know it is all the people that need to pull themselves out of the darkness and admit the truth. There are many independent moderates and followers (as opposed to supporters) of the left who must also admit to themselves the truth.

      Action in, by or through one of the established parties will not be taken to right the problems we face. Plus, in all honesty there are stances and issues on the conservative side (both Republican and Tea flavored) that are asinine to maintain intractability over. All this bullheadedness from all directions has not aided in any positive movement to reform of any kind. It’s a smoke and mirrors game.

      Plus, the Tea party will make lots of noise and give the old guard real headaches – until the party quells this mini-“revolt” and regains control over the show.

      I don’t expect a lot of agreement on my thinking – but then if I wanted nothing but agreement I wouldn’t write anything controversial.

      Also, who said anything about creating a new party? Why must we continue to live in the idea that politics and voting requires political parties?

      • V.H. permalink
        May 1, 2011 12:48 pm

        Actually, I would love to get rid of political parties-but I don’t see that happening anytime soon, so obviously the Tea Party did have to look at these options. And I agree everyone needs to wake up-the Tea Party is trying to wake them up. As far as social issues-we are never getting rid of them even if they do cause disagreements. So I can appreciate your points and I will agree that winning is a long shot, so I understand the negativity. But I also see people trying to change things and getting nothing but criticism for doing so. So I find myself continuing to think-okay we must discuss the negatives but is negativity all we are going to get-how about some ideas on how to overcome those because if what we are doing isn’t gonna work -what is the answer.

        • May 1, 2011 1:03 pm

          Agreed, there should be solutions offered, and on some topics I have.

          For example I tried to think outside the box on our immigration issue (https://gmanfortruth.wordpress.com/2011/03/29/mother-may-i-immigration-reform/) taking the aspects of both sides into consideration to meld into some working idea of how to proceed.

          I have spoken on my old blog, and in comments elsewhere to the battle over same sex marriage and offered up my thinking for resolving that issue as well.

          So, I am not just criticizing. I am always looking for options, ideas and solution to problems to offer up for consideration. What I am tired of is the inflexibility of the of the party politics to deal with these issues and settle them (at least until the attempted solutions bring more issues to the forefront).

          If that means haranguing the parties for their lack of true accomplishment, then criticize I shall.

          • V.H. permalink
            May 1, 2011 1:07 pm

            I know you have and believe me -I am not criticizing you. But before anyone’s ideas can come to fruition we must have people in power who will instate them. Hence the need for what the Tea Party is trying to do

          • May 1, 2011 1:09 pm

            VH, lets move to the bottom for more room. This is a part of wordpress I dislike. lol

  3. anita permalink
    May 1, 2011 12:53 pm

    So the alternative is to..do nothing? What about when doing nothing results in us going off the cliff. The tea party is a step toward VDLG. Is there a problem with that?

    • May 1, 2011 1:07 pm

      No anita, not do nothing. That is not what I am pushing for.

      I am pushing for people to release themselves from the constraints of party politics and stop working for their desired ends (which means their survival as a power in DC) and become a true voting power for the good of the country before all other goods.

      Party politics demands allegiance to their ideals. Yet those ideals, while they may be good ones, are unresolved year after year. Why is that do you suppose?

    • gmanfortruth permalink*
      May 1, 2011 1:09 pm

      No problem at all with that, but, until we eliminate the corrupt parties from the system, nothing will change. Our government, both sides are owned by banksters and corporate heads. They do not work for us and haven’t for awhile. This is the beast that can’t be fixed at the ballot box. It’s time to invoke the words of the Declaration of Independence! 👿

  4. May 1, 2011 1:13 pm

    VH, why must we have a group in power to affect changes?

    Think a moment – what if our founders thought that way? There was no block in power when “we the people” decided to get off our collective behinds and become the power block.

    There is no need to wait on Republicans, Democrats, or any other political party to act towards out goals before “we the people” do so on our own.

    VDLG will not happen within any established party in my personal opinion. It will happen only when “we the people” make it happen.

    • V.H. permalink
      May 1, 2011 1:34 pm

      I’m still foggy on how we are going to make it happen without using the party system. Because that is the avenue we have. To change that we would have to have a party which voted to change things or a civil war to demand it.

      • May 1, 2011 1:54 pm

        It is made to happen by voters banding together to force a change – not as a party. Heck, you may only gain this voting block on an issue by issue basis.

        Voting blocks of any strength must not be bound by a party. You’ll need people agreeing from all political sides in order to overthrow the strangle hold on issues that individual parties hold.

        The parties have successfully convinced voters that the parties are the only avenue for political change. I call BS….and voters must know that without them the parties are nothing.

        Working with like minded people on any issue, educating – calmly and rationally – people to solutions, real solutions is one step in breaking the deadlocks we have in DC.

        Convincing voters that we don’t need parties in DC to make changes is another. Look at the States where there is proposition or referendum voting (as an example) to make changes and you’ll see something that would scare the living hell out of national politicians. After all, in their thinking who knows better, the voters or us – the “leaders” of the party?

        Work to break the party’s – all of them – strangleholds over voters and build consensus among the voters on issues. Get away from the failed politics of the parties and their holds over voting blocks.

        • V.H. permalink
          May 1, 2011 2:02 pm

          I’m starting to see what you are talking about-need to think about it for awhile to grasp your meaning. But it is sounding to me like the Tea Party is trying to do what you are saying. They are a voting block which wants fiscal responsibility-they are simply using this block through the republican party.

  5. Judy Sabatini permalink
    May 1, 2011 2:00 pm

    I know this has been mentioned before, but don’t or can’t remember the answers. What about just one party, do away with Democrats & Republicans? Or, would that even be possible?

    • May 1, 2011 2:03 pm

      I don’t know, I must have missed any conversation over having a single party. But, on the surface I wouldn’t be interested of the idea. I don’t want some party to do my thinking for me. I believe it is better for us to independently work out the issues as individuals members of society, not some party voting block.

      But, in all fairness I would also like to hear/read more of this idea as it was discussed.

      • Judy Sabatini permalink
        May 1, 2011 2:17 pm

        Well, I thought it might have been mentioned on SUFA, but not really sure, but I do remember hearing something, somewhere about that. I think at this point, anything would be better than what we have now.

  6. Birdman permalink
    May 1, 2011 2:30 pm

    There is no political solution. The problems cannot be fixed at the ballot box. The Tea Party extended the patriot act. I don’t have any faith in them. The banksters control both parties and have since at least 1913 and earlier. The New World Order is going forward with each passing day. Once the USA falls, it will be much easier to implement the NWO and a new global currency. That is there plan and I do not currently see a way to stop it.

  7. Greg Fessler permalink
    May 1, 2011 2:31 pm

    in truth there are not two parties, they are one, they work together to make us feel they are separate. they care not about who voted for who or what. they have their own agendas to fill and they arent going to slow down because of something we say or vote for or against. the system needs to be torn down completely to its very foundation, and until that happens as g man stated, nothing will change except the faces of the crooks. none of us really wants to fight to get our country back, but it is and always has been the only way to weed out the ugly. ” THE ONLY THING NECESSARY FOR EVIL TO PROSPER IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING” dont remember who said this but it is in fact, the very truth,, thanks g for another great article

    • May 1, 2011 4:02 pm

      The quote is attributed to Edmund Burke, a political philosopher, though there is some dispute over whether or not this attribution is correct. Either way, the sentiment of the quote is appropriate in many different circumstances.

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